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by the whites of their eyes.....

As a photographer, when I developed my black and white photographs I was graded on the contrast of the images. One of the grades was due to the white of the subject's eyes. I'm finding that even if I alter an image in PS7 and it 'looks' white the development (due to the color processing) leaves me seeing an 'overall' grey tone. I would receive an F if I had a 'grey' hue. So, having been graded that way... I learned to make the eyes white. This grey hue is completely throwing me off... Is there anything that can be done prior to sending to print to alleviate this 'grey' hue?


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Just a thought, but have you callibrated your monitor recently? If what you see is not what is printed, re-callibration would be a good place to start.
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yeah that was recently done. The printer was printing something slightly different than what I had so I had our tech guys do it. but this is different.

This is an overall grey tone that done w/in the color processing / development. I see a very light grey hue that is not bright white.
I've been told by several labs it's due to the color processing which all digi prints are processed. True b&w is a different. Though I have no idea how. It has something to do w/ the silver gelatin. (I only use the chemicals to develop..lol I don't know anything else.) I was just thinking maybe some of the digi experts might have a trick up their sleeve.
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Hi Scrapchic - the processing people gave you the right information. Really the only solution is to get them printed as a true black and white process though it is more expensive and these days you may find it difficult to find a lab that has the ability to do so. You may have more luck online I found this one http://www.mpix.com/trueblackandwhite.aspx that might help
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Thanks for the link!!!
I still work w/ true black and white film. But for working on digi scrapbook pages, I wanted to incorporate those images in my LO's while maintaining the b&w contrast. the grey tone just bugs me. I guess I need to get over it. Printing digi pages in true b&w may not end up being benficial in cost, but also design. Especially if some of the elements are in color.

But thank you again for the link! It actually might be a good way for me to print images taken digitally to be printed in b&w format. Now that's pretty awesome!
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Could you print the B&W images seperately and then adhere them to your digital print? I know this defeats some of the purpose of digiscrapping, but then you could have your pics the way you want them and maybe it wouldn't be AS expensive as if you printed the whole page. Just a thought!
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Printing true B&W images on a home printer is very difficult.. in fact, many pro photographers purchase a seperate printer that is used solely for B&W printing (usually one that comes with seperate 50% and 25% grey carts).. When i need to convert to B&W and be spot on in overal tonage, I send them out to WHCC (of course, I send out all my client prints these days.. cost effective as well). My B&W prints come back exactly as I send them out.. as stated before, I just can't say enough good things about them - I just wish I got a kickback from all the customers I've sent their way..
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have you tried adjusting the photograph with levels in photoshop? I know in PSE4 and PSCS2 it's under CTRL+L ...
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