Hmmm, I'll have to analyse that, wink. You may be right insofar as I am probably not a newbie anymore but I still think of myself as one! I am still pretty new at PS (just bought it at the end of October) so maybe that counts. Anyway, I love the challenges and meeting people and I need some spurring on (what I call the cattle prod factor). There are more things I can't do than I can currently do, so that bolsters up the newbie leverage