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I have version 8SE, it came bundled with several other programs, probably a preview or trial version? It doesn't have a texture filter under material effects, just artist texture. And Xenofex 1 doesn't have the crumple force option. But I've been playing around with using the blur tool and some of the painting textures over the crumple, haven't quite got it right, but getting closer. Thanks for your help.
KayLynn
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